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O-kay! Something to cross off my list of things to do!

I put some solid work in tonight and finally, finally finished watching Demon Under Glass. I have been at it since, like, October. I just couldn't watch for longer than about five minutes at a time.

What I'm trying to tell you, I guess, is that that's why the recap is so incredibly detailed.

DEMON UNDER GLASS "In a featureless black box room, the three doctors watch through a one-way mirror into the super-secure-totally-look-we-boringly-showed-all-these-security-measures room where the SWAT guys are installing Marcus's casket. Subcommander Tal tells [Blair] that inside is a 'creature of pure [mumble]' (malevolence? evil? metal?) Blair guesses 'Lawn gnome?' Dirty look: 'Vampire.' Blair's incredulous. Tal: 'Do you know any human being that can be repeatedly shot, clubbed, shoved into a box, and still have the strength to resist?' Well, Blair does, yeah."

NB: I do not want you to watch this movie. I can't stress that enough. I don't even really recommend that you read the recap, but must needs when the devil drives. Godspeed.

on 2008-02-01 04:18 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] janedavitt.livejournal.com
I posted my thoughts on it here (http://janedavitt.livejournal.com/844490.html) which could be summed up as GM best thing in it, movie crap.

Poor, poor GM...brave you!

on 2008-02-01 04:50 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zelempa.livejournal.com
Hee, you give it more thought in a few hundred words than I do in eight million. :) Watching it in such short increments limited my ability to see arcs; I'll grant you that.

The story itself wasn't that bad, I guess, on paper; I kept waiting for the other shoe to drop, and the fact that it didn't--I can't decide if that's good writing (because unpredictable) or bad (because boring). Then, of course, the whole thing was quite poorly executed.

So. Slow. My GOD. THE SLOW.

You hit the nail on the head when you talked about the discomforting factor, harsh lighting etc., and they also weirdly capture the feeling of being a patient or a test subject--the sort of sterile-yet-grimy dehumanization. It's a good movie to watch if I ever want to recapture the experience of participating in a sleep study.

Watching GM was sort of painful, too, even though he was by far the best thing going. His talent and effort (heartbreaking effort!) made him completely out of place. And I never really got over the offness. Bad/nonexistent lighting, makeup, postproduction etc. rendering his goofy-yet-beautiful features just goofy. His hair being short. I need to go watch TS and unwind.

on 2008-02-01 04:54 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] snycock.livejournal.com
LOL! I think you totally hit the mark. It was an interesting idea, and Garett was good, but the production values were awful.

There actually is a fair amount of DUG slash, and even some DUG/TS crossovers. There's even two books, which encompass the movie and then afterwards - the remaining evil scientists of the project want to capture Joe and make him a vampire, so Marcus rescues him and they go on the run together...

on 2008-02-01 12:37 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zelempa.livejournal.com
I'm not sure how I would structure a DUG/TS crossover. Joe is actually the Sentinel's... Blair spent six months working at... Joe meets Blair, his long lost... Joe/Blair?! (I guess I should read and find out and not speculate wildly about Joe/Blair. [but i want to])

on 2008-02-01 02:52 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] snycock.livejournal.com
LOL! No, it's usually Jim/Blair, Joe/Marcus. And I've read at least one where Blair and Joe are twin brothers, separated at birth or something like that.

Although now that you've mentioned it, the Joe/Blair thing is weirdly hard to shake from my mind...::goes to find the brain bleach::

on 2008-02-01 03:19 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zelempa.livejournal.com
You're welcome.

I love that I have you calling him Marcus.

on 2008-02-01 03:41 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] snycock.livejournal.com
I love that I have you calling him Marcus.

Oh, God, you're right, his name in the movie is Simon, isn't it? ::facepalm:: Marcus was his character in Babylon 5?

on 2008-02-01 04:39 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zelempa.livejournal.com
His name is Simon, yeah, but calling him that is almost as bad as calling GM's character "McKay."

Actually, pretty much all of the names in the movie already have prior slashy associations. Even "Joe" brings me to a Flanigan place.

Marcus is the B5 character but the fact that he wasn't named Marcus on the TS episode he was in didn't stop me there, either. Look, GM changed his hair, and he got a new name. JC didn't, so Marcus he will remain.

on 2008-02-01 07:11 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mab-browne.livejournal.com
It's incredibly awful. The movie that is, not your recap. But not so awful that I don't have an unfinished DUG fanfic hanging around the hard-drive, because Garrett! Jason Carter! vampires! And the the script's not that bad in the greater horror story scheme of things. Just a shame about things like the production (non)values.

For prettier production values but a script that makes no sense and is misogynist crap to boot, watch Richard Burgi's 'Darklight'. RB in a leather coat, topless David Hewlett, John DeLancey (Q) all jowly gravitas. But the script is crap, and the production values are better than DUG only in a relative sense.

on 2008-02-01 12:32 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zelempa.livejournal.com
Hee. That sounds fun.

on 2008-02-01 10:06 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] cross-stitchery.livejournal.com
um, thanks. i think. you know, for making me relive the awfulness :) but, omg, even the bad lighting doesn't make Garett look bad.

on 2008-02-01 12:25 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zelempa.livejournal.com
It makes him look... strange. Comparatively, anyway. Look, I'm not going to say he's not a ridiculously good-looking man. This, I am not prepared to do. But I have grown accustomed to a certain level of godlike beauty. The bar is set very high!

Well I like it.

on 2008-02-01 11:06 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] gillyp.livejournal.com
Really, I do. Usually I loathe vampire anything but I thought this was an interesting and thoughtful movie. OK, visially it sucks very big hairy ones, the budget non existent, some of the acting (certainly not all) is shitty and the 'effects' (snort) laughable (but they are mercifully few) - but looking past all that to the bread and butter of the thing - I like it; I've watched it many times.

Re: Well I like it.

on 2008-02-01 11:40 am (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] mab-browne.livejournal.com
So I should finish that angsty, totally unhappy ending DUG fic in hiding in a folder, then?

Re: Well I like it.

on 2008-02-01 12:27 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zelempa.livejournal.com
Do it! Fic is a good idea because it eliminates the least pleasant part of the DUG experience, which is actually watching it. (oh, snap)

Re: Well I like it.

on 2008-02-01 12:31 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zelempa.livejournal.com
You know, I can see where you're coming from, because it could have been a lot worse plot-wise, and Jane's right that it's oddly compelling and that the security-cam thing kind of worked for it, and it's cool that it ended up being about science ethics, and Garett; but the pacing and the look of the thing are just so unpleasant that I don't think I could deal with it a second time.

Re: Well I like it.

on 2008-02-01 03:40 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] gillyp.livejournal.com
I have no problems with the pacing, tbh - maybe becasue I grew up watching foreign films (o: I'm not into action at all. I can do slow. *g*

Have you read the book? The last third or so goes beyond the end of the film and is deliciously slashy. I would have preferred a *lot* less of Marcus and had that ending instead.

Re: Well I like it.

on 2008-02-01 04:50 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] zelempa.livejournal.com
I don't require things to be super fast explosions bam all the time, but I like things to be economical, and not to take longer than they need to.

Mostly I guess I wish the treadmill and eye test montage had been shorter, but maybe that is because it made me so embarrassed.

I have not read the book. Does the gay become text?

Re: Does the gay become text?

on 2008-02-01 05:06 pm (UTC)
Posted by [identity profile] gillyp.livejournal.com
No; 2 years later, Marcus runs off with Joe; he yearns but never gets his way - it's by far the most interesting and sexy part of the story.

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